Venice Unleashed

I am currently researching what values that would have to be either increased, decreased, disabled or removed in order to create a BF2 gameplay mod for Venice Unleashed. Now, in the first stage it won't be much honestly. I will mostly try to match some of the BF3 values to their BF2 counterpart.

So, what changes would make BF3 similar to BF2? I have created a list of changes that I think would fit nicely in order to create a slower-paced game with less run and gun. I will also look into vehicle handling and such.

Disable:

Health-regeneration
Color Correction
3D Spotting
Unlimited ammo for Health-Kits
Unlimited ammo for Vehicles
Unlimited sprint ?
Killfeed ? - Who reads it anyway
Pointfeed
Response when player is killed

Decrease:

Sprint Speed
Maximum Health - Will have to be tested. Can be done by server-settings anyway
Supression visual ?
Tank-armor in the back - RPG & C4 in the rear should do more damage
Jump-height
Sun-glare

Increase:

Respawn-time
Weapon Spread ? - Need to compare the games first
Reload-time
Spray Penalty
Spray Penalty when moving
Jump penalty
Squad-size (6)
Supression-affection ?
repair-time for vehicles
Mortar reload-time
Explosive resupply-time
Vehicle spawn count ?

Excluding the weapon ammo (which is doable since it's in BF4), most of the stuff you requested are in Hardcore mode... which can also be played in a Custom preset if someone were to host it.

powback wrote:Disable:

Health-regeneration Hardcore mode
Color Correction Venice Unleashed
3D Spotting Hardcore mode
Unlimited ammo for Health-Kits Maybe VU cvars or ProCon
Unlimited ammo for Vehicles Mods
Unlimited sprint ? Mods
Killfeed ? - Who reads it anyway Part of UI
Pointfeed Also part of UI
Response when player is killed UI

Decrease:

Sprint Speed Mods
Maximum Health - Will have to be tested. Can be done by server-settings anyway Mods
Supression visual ? Venice Unleashed
Tank-armor in the back - RPG & C4 in the rear should do more damage Mods
Jump-height Mods
Sun-glare Venice Unleashed

Increase:

Respawn-time ProCon
Weapon Spread ? - Need to compare the games first Mods
Reload-time Mods
Spray Penalty Mods
Spray Penalty when moving Mods
Jump Penalty Mods
Squad-size (6) Might be in VU already
Supression-affection ? VU
repair-time for vehicles Mods
Mortar reload-time Mods
Explosive resupply-time Mods
Vehicle spawn count ? ProCon

My suggestions are in red.

There are some things which can be done without heavy modding...

"Mods" mean it can be done by creating scripts or Rime modifications since some things are engine-related and need a re-configuration (e.g. reload times, etc).

Kerrigan wrote:

My suggestions are in red.

There are some things which can be done without heavy modding...

"Mods" mean it can be done by creating scripts or Rime modifications since some things are engine-related and need a re-configuration (e.g. reload times, etc).

Oh yeah, I'm aware of that. It's more about what it should include than anything.

mizudg wrote:Excluding the weapon ammo (which is doable since it's in BF4), most of the stuff you requested are in Hardcore mode... which can also be played in a Custom preset if someone were to host it.

It's not as much as a request as it is a suggestion list. I'm doing this myself, but I would just like some more additions.

Please don't say hardcore mode....

What we need is a classic preset with following settings;

3dspotting off
audiospotting off
autospotting off
health regen off
disabling off
suppression off
color grading off
soilder call outs off
6 man sqauds

Rest should be similar to normal preset.

If we want something even closer, I think we need to setup a separate backend so we can keep patching the game with weapon balance, vehicle tweaks, removal off gadgets/weapons and adding maybe a wire-guided weapon system (SRAW) instead off all this lockon we have now.

faddn wrote:Please don't say hardcore mode....

This, cuz hc gives us too low HP.

faddn wrote:Rest should be similar to normal preset.

If we want something even closer, I think we need to setup a separate backend so we can keep patching the game with weapon balance, vehicle tweaks, removal off gadgets/weapons and adding maybe a wire-guided weapon system (SRAW) instead off all this lockon we have now.

No way for weapon balance cuz dice make it client side and pack it inside .cas file with RSA encryption.
Removal off gadgets/weapons should be easy.

Freeshnik wrote:

faddn wrote:Please don't say hardcore mode....

This, cuz hc gives us too low HP.

faddn wrote:Rest should be similar to normal preset.

If we want something even closer, I think we need to setup a separate backend so we can keep patching the game with weapon balance, vehicle tweaks, removal off gadgets/weapons and adding maybe a wire-guided weapon system (SRAW) instead off all this lockon we have now.

No way for weapon balance cuz dice make it client side and pack it inside .cas file with RSA encryption.
Removal off gadgets/weapons should be easy.

It will be possible to modify any file for VU mods.

Freeshnik wrote:This, cuz hc gives us too low HP.

Isn't there any separate command for HP?
In CoD, you got "scr_hardcore" and "scr_player_maxhealth". Aren't there any similar commands on a BF3 server?

hardcore just forces a set of parameters
but you can set them manualy with a config or via Rcon.
You can set the parameters manualy but then the server is running in the custom gamemode and not in hardcore/normal

XuluniX wrote:hardcore just forces a set of parameters
but you can set them manualy with a config or via Rcon.
You can set the parameters manualy but then the server is running in the custom gamemode and not in hardcore/normal

Custom is not good, it is to hard to get a successful classic mod running when you don't have a good preset that find servers forr you.